The Butcher Shop
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The Butcher Shop
S2:E8 - "Cocks Win"
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No seriously the cocks won
We're in this muther fucker its the butcher shop. I told you we'd be back.
Johnny Mansun:No time.
Zach:Should we just get to it? Fucking Coach K,
Johnny Mansun:let's just let's just not. Yeah, let's just make this episode about being silent.
Zach:How long do you think we could be silent without people just like, I don't want to
Johnny Mansun:10 seconds but like, I think we should do like 25 minutes and just silence and see if we get one listener to listen to the whole thing we did. That's how we know starting
Zach:now. So my fucking Coach K dude, it's so crazy
Johnny Mansun:because I'll be back another year.
Zach:He's gonna do a tie who would fit I fucking hope right? But the thing is is like he made it so interesting to watch like March Madness because like, I remember watching Coach K the first time like I ever watched March Madness and I was like, Oh, I like this Duke team. And they went in they won the championship, bro. So to now see like John Shire, like about to be the coach and he was like the star player for that team. And this is back in like 2010 Bro, like, it was a long time ago. You know? It's just like, it's crazy to see like life like, you know, being in like a circle. But yeah, I'm excited to see what happens with Duke but it was crazy man like those. It's crazy because UNC really like took him out of there twice.
Johnny Mansun:Is it kind of disappointing though that UNC ads Dukes like magical, like, movies sort of like run like Coach K's last season to win the chip. And they add that in the Final Four. Yeah, then they go to the chip and then lose after holding of 15 point lead at halftime? Is it that fucked up? It's like damn, they thought they had it. They didn't fucking have shit. They did
Zach:everything but finish at the end. You know what I mean? Is that just goes to show you gotta always finish out then
Johnny Mansun:ask your girl how important it is to finish at the end.
Zach:You can't just like you know, give it three fourths effort. I have, bro. You gotta like really Joe? Like Kansas famous that the hit?
Johnny Mansun:No, but, you know, real talk. I'm a Miami fan and Kansas. We were also leading kids don't bring here. You're also leaving Kansas in the Elite Eight. Halftime not by 15. But we were leading them and we were playing on par with them. At the very least you're leading them. They seem like crazy. And they did the same thing in the fucking championship game in North Carolina should have known and the ACC didn't win the chip this year even though we had three teams in the NBA.
Zach:I think well I don't know if you'll be back we'll have the same
Johnny Mansun:I mean, the reason why this Miami team was so good was they were overs Yeah. And there's so many transfers now the transfer portal is really becoming a thing and I think Miami is is with this whole free agency thing existing I think Miami is of course, a very attractive location geographically, but now with a new ad and the main sport being taken seriously aka football funded was and this current run to the Elite Eight which is a record which we Miami but who says never got to. I think all of that combines to make Miami a possible contender coming in the next five years in college basketball and see if we could get another team to the Elite Eight. If FSU could do it Miami can fucking do it. Now if you see our little fucking sons
Zach:that's a feel. Anybody you want to say that to specifically Mike Norville.
Johnny Mansun:Sean Yeah. BHS what's the difference between Mike Norville and Sean there's very little the
Zach:same. Literally same dude. Same dude. Different Erica. Yeah, both can win in the leagues. Same Erica.
Unknown:So I said different haircut.
Johnny Mansun:No, we love you, Shawn. We're just getting
Zach:shining. Did you see that LeBron James? April Fool's joke.
Johnny Mansun:Yeah, too bad. It wasn't a joke. Even though it was on April 1. First it was not cat. He said, I'm out for the season officially see y'all in the fall. Done. Here's the thing, though. So yeah, we all know that the Lakers were kicked out of the playoff playing. And they're officially not going to have a chance to play in the playoffs. They have three games left, I believe. Yeah. LeBron suffered a ankle sprain. And the thing is, he didn't play in the game they had to win to stay in to reach the playoffs or the play in tournaments. Sorry, but he could potentially play the last two or three games of the season. And you ask why? Why would he do that? If he wasn't well enough to play for the game they needed to win? To make the play in tournament? Why would he play right now? When you're there's no shot you make the playoffs? Why would you risk getting injured? Why would you there's no point there's no point in those games. He is in the running for
Zach:Get the fuck out eight points.
Johnny Mansun:Leader, the most points per game leader the scoring title is he really and he's down behind Joelle and bead jeweller beat as 30.4 is averaging 30.4 points per game LeBrons averaging 30.3. The thing is, LeBron has to play two more games to be eligible for the scoring title. And there's three games left. So people are like, is he gonna go play meaningless games after the Lakers completely flopped? And he didn't even play the game that matter for them to go get a selfish like thing, but it's like, bro, yeah, he's 37 MJ got his the MJ had the oldest scoring title. And that was when he was 35. So if LeBron puts that on his resume, that definitely is an accolade. No one's gonna talk about how Russell Westbrook is trashed? Did
Zach:MJ make the playoffs that year? When he did that? Quite. I don't know. Because he most likely fucking did. And I'm pretty sure he didn't lead the league in scoring and then his team like didn't make the playoffs. So it's like even if LeBron does this shit, it's not really a flex because nigga you like made you made a whole bunch of shots on a terrible team that you couldn't make like good. And the crazy part is is bro I was seeing in the preseason when they started this team like, day one. When the season started, this team had six Hall of Famers on it. Now I understand that Oh, but like bro, they still had some youth. And I feel like they can't do something. I just feel like they really like obviously the ad had to endure in shape. But I felt like nobody really took this year serious. And at a certain point, they just realized that Fuck it. We'll just go for next year.
Johnny Mansun:Next year. It's never gonna happen though, because they're getting so much criticism because so many people had them as the favourites to win it all. That's a Brooklyn. Yeah. Even make the play in tournament with Lebron James averaging the most points he's ever averaged in the league. That's crazy. Yeah, shoot was bad. But I mean, bro. Listen, LeBron, relaxed just coming to Miami next year. We already got a championship caliber team. LeBron alue. From stress to LeBron, I need to see it. I need that in my life.
Zach:Honestly, though, I think the best take from all of this came from three year Letterman.
Johnny Mansun:My favorite Twitter user,
Zach:so he said, Not acceptable of wrong as a youth football coaching legend. I've instructed players to return to games on come on come on so I think the best take honestly came from three years Letterman. He said not acceptable LeBron as a youth football coaching legend. I've instructed players to return to games on compound like fractures and they've done it they've all said the long term pain was worth the championship ring sad you don't have the same winning mindsets all facts I dude onto that literally went in said that he said That's fucked up. If you're making kids play with broken legs. Just say.
Unknown:Just saying oh no Kathy, she's not funny. Like
Zach:you're literally putting People that dude like yo, it's crazy they make today so fun.
Unknown:That response. He should have just tweeted I'm an NPC I have NPC 2476 If you don't get your
Zach:MO when I seen the shit I died. All right. So why is LSU 2019 versus 2001 Even a debate?
Johnny Mansun:Well, because Joe burrow just went to the Super Bowl
Zach:the fuck out. I mean, they really weren't a trash team,
Johnny Mansun:bro. He had the worst ol line and he's the quarterback. That's important.
Zach:I mean, they had a bad old line, but they had a good team. They had a decent Yeah, he has. Eli has three. But still he has three great wide receivers. And I mean if you're just gonna pass it all the day, like that helps. And then if you have he has a great running back who can catch and do everything he does. You know what I mean? I get it his old lines not good. But they fight though. Like they fight hard. So like they're not like they're not good, but they fight and that helps. You know, I mean, and then it's not like they're like Apple was bad right? But their defense is pretty solid. Like and they made some they had some like lucky things bro literally they were a Ryan Tannehill like dumb play away from like going home. Ryan Tannehill threw like a dumbass pick and then gave the Bengals back and all the Titans had to do was like kick a field goal there's some shit so like yeah, against the Bengals like so that's what I'm saying is
Johnny Mansun:that like pick one yeah, they had to do is hit the field goal.
Zach:Yes, bro. That's what I'm saying. Like literally the Bengals It was sort of lucky that they got into the Super Bowl, but they were still a good team, you know? But like, I'm just like, you can't go and
Johnny Mansun:someone loses the LSU team they're not better. There's also recency bias.
Zach:Yeah, and I'm like, bro you're talking about the quarterback. Alright cool. But what about the US defense? I'm gonna you told them how they got all pros. They have NFL all pros at third string um, like I was you don't have that. I'm like come on like let's not do that let's
Johnny Mansun:use playing in the weakest defensive SS SEC that has existed in the past fucking footcare every year like the SEC hasn't played this bad defense and allowed this many points ever. Like and that's just that just shows how college football is changing. But NA and EU overall isn't isn't throwing isn't winning the game against that 2001 Miami D for LSU
Zach:also has fallen off a cliff. This UN team did not follow up a quick Kobe stop the Miami oh my oh my
Johnny Mansun:gosh certified Miami is so much more certified than LSU will ever be this is why literally bro. Miami Hurricanes football with Mario Cristobal who hasn't coached a single game for you M football yet has so much hype and has such a star studded loaded list of coaches under him the coach of that 29 Team LSU team literally was posting pictures of him at UNM at their coaches camp with Sean McVeigh the the
Zach:NFL road doing Clover I'll keep it a buck is keep they're all
Johnny Mansun:like yo Welcome to Miami here's some Do you like some blue Stella Would you like some cocaine think they
Zach:didn't pull up the biology a little bit different there my man talking to Ryan
Unknown:Yeah, really well yeah, so Yeah,
Zach:is this we could say that the dudes Whatever
Johnny Mansun:dude now all I'm saying is Sean McVeigh was there Miami so much more certified the coach of this team was literally at Miami wearing a US shirt like rockin that shit his son has a job with us now like he got his son like a job like super low in the ranks of like motor you said a job and yeah, so I mean my wish is way more certified bro all these teams want to talk shit to Miami and unless you're Alabama with like a fucking million chips like no one really else can stack up like Nebraska and like that's it. And Nebraska we shit on Nebraska in 2001 with that team so
Zach:I don't know man playing teams like Nebraska and Wisconsin. It's tough. I don't think we got good records against them boys because it's the last time we played like two teams like that we don't last
Johnny Mansun:night we fuck up.
Zach:We we always get lost in the Orange Bowl. Exactly. But they also had always folks like Jonathan Taylor and like mad like oh linemen and like yeah, don't like that. So that makes sense. And you know, they literally ended. Who was that dude Russell Wilson. Like I don't know what they ended like two of our players careers on that day. You don't remember that corner and someone else like literally they got injured like neck injury, same shit. But yeah, they play like hard pause. So that's why it's like, oh, I want to like you know, we talked about Wisconsin, you know what I'm saying is you say okay, or okay.
Johnny Mansun:I said, okay, okay, I'm gay
Unknown:luck is Oh, man. That's
Zach:what I heard you say Brother.
Unknown:As you say, We're gonna cut all that out. What are we even talking about? Fucking No,
Johnny Mansun:do Okay, check it out. I got you. The
Zach:NA are my gay. I watched sway I watch
Unknown:sway every day 24/7 365
Zach:And I gotta rode my name Johnny. The book all that I
Johnny Mansun:like to drive.
Zach:I got rainbows in my room cuz I'm gay. Like you I got how many times this is really weird, postman you my son I wouldn't let you had
Unknown:your unacceptable this was a sports pod. It's just as homophobia pod.
Zach:Honestly, because this is for sponsors. We can get our shit off. My thing is did you want to talk about the well we talked about dolphins and paths that's gonna draw
Johnny Mansun:so Okay, so
Zach:I didn't really I guess I didn't see we didn't the Bolinas
Johnny Mansun:Devonte Parker I want to hear bro let me know you didn't really talk to me about this Devonte Parker thing What do you think about Devonte Parker you know how I feel I told you I feel but what's your take on it as a Patriots fan?
Zach:I think he'll be a good addition. Good number two I still think we need to find somebody else but knowing the patriots we probably won't and we'll go out there with that but I think Mac Jones regardless is going to play really good because if you can get open or not even get open if you can get like slight open rack Jones can get you the ball like he's not taught or to anon whatever you dolphins
Johnny Mansun:can't get people the ball know if there was a jailer water who set like a record for like rookie receved
Zach:Shaelyn water was catching the ball like two yards off the one scrimmage
Johnny Mansun:still a thrown a patch but still has to be right on the right you
Unknown:know you could do that.
Johnny Mansun:Yo you ever heard of the guy debo Samuel
Zach:debo Samuels not a fucking quarterback?
Johnny Mansun:No but his coach who was calling him bad plays and he was getting wide open
Zach:but Okay, so the thing is is bro I guess you but regardless
Johnny Mansun:if I racial bro you know my favorite two rappers are biracial Jay Cole logic? And now the dolphins coach's biracial bro
Zach:honestly, honestly, you don't have anything else on here. And I'm like, I don't think we have anything.
Johnny Mansun:So you think so? Wait, hold on. So you think Devonte Parker is like is like better than Nelson Aguilar.
Zach:Oh, honestly, they're probably both the same. They're both. You're just adding more made way, man. Okay, well, let's keep it a book.
Johnny Mansun:What did what did the dolphins get in return for this? Can you tell me they
Zach:got 20 23/3 round pick. Not to mention though the Patriots got Parker and a fifth round pick for this year. So I think the the Patriots win because they needed a wide receiver. And they pick up an extra fifth round pick, they win. They are giving the dolphins a 20 23/3 round pick. And JC Jackson signed with the Chargers. So they're gonna get a third round pick from the Chargers like you know what I mean? So this pays for that. So essentially, they got Devonte Parker and a pic for free. You know what I mean? So it makes sense and they needed another wide receiver. Devonte Parker's talented. We seen Devonte Parker carhops the foreign Gilmore you know what I mean? So like, Fuck it, you know what I mean?
Johnny Mansun:He's not bad, but I also think that he's not, he can't be your number one wide receiver he's not going to be but He is right now no technically not who is your number one wideout Mac Jones know your wide receiver Mac
Zach:Jones he's gonna play wide receiver PC Jones plays Jones our law he looks like a slot receiver Casey Jones plays quarterback
Johnny Mansun:he was a tight end or like a slot receiver I'd be like that dude sounds like he's like good and put on some more weight bro skinny brah oh well
Zach:judging another man's weight class brother weight up if you're what you're doing Are you an NFL scout?
Johnny Mansun:Nah Nah I'm just saying like PC Jones's bid and tour with the actual good player on the O line and an actual running back. Two of them in in Chase Edmonds and Raheem moster and then Ty Hill and Jalen Waldo and Mike a second you realize
Zach:that those two running backs you just named for him Moser is literally injured
Johnny Mansun:literally runs like a four to six like that.
Zach:Alright, so I don't one thing you don't know about that dude is that he's he's been like yeah, like chronically chronically injured like for the last like three years and you expect him to just go out there and yeah, he guess what bro he ran out. Ran out for three at his draft day. That was before he tore his ACL three times fuck I had on my face and then those the other dudes you said Chase admins Chase Edmonds literally got injured last year and was out for like, I think 10 games and he's the reason why James Connor got all those fucking carries and shit. So I'm like bro don't act like James Connor not doing like Chase admins and fucking row where he most are such a great combo going from
Johnny Mansun:miles Gaskin and all respect due to the UAM legend Duke Johnson.
Zach:Stomp. Shadow the Duke
Johnny Mansun:Dude, come on. I mean, it's not my fault you chase Edmonds if he's healthy is a good running.
Zach:It's literally not my fault. You guys have a trash bag room.
Johnny Mansun:Bow. So that's what I'm saying. If you're a dolphin sandwich you're not but if
Zach:you are yellow spring, like so much money on like, just sec.
Johnny Mansun:We have more calf space. And you guys
Zach:I mean cool because you have a Turkish team lubra
Johnny Mansun:We literally won just as many years as you guys did practically. Yeah, I guess but not every beat you guys two times last year.
Zach:I have to. I have the Molo out of it. But I'm just gonna leave it at this man. The dolphins are trash and the thing is, is you know this every Dolphins fan know this. How are you gonna say fins up? What have you done? What is like what have you done for the fence to be I
Johnny Mansun:so I gotta say one started just randomly spin this row receivers debate. This is my favorite isn't my favorite line that I think just encapsulates what I'm trying to say. Is that what have the Patriots done without Tom Brady? That's so important. Because everyone every Patriots fan is worshipping Matt Jones. Because they pray and hope and believe and want Matt Jones to be anything resembling the sweat butt off of the fucking face of Tom Brady.
Zach:You realize you could say that for your bone franchise, right? Because you guys literally went out there and drafted to over Justin Herbert right. And to, to obviously is not just an herb or everybody knows that. So who you are capping throwing as much fucking like shit on to, to like, you know, try and make him sound good. And you know, he's going to be so good and shit like that. When he's not Justin Herbert just to fucking make yourself feel good. Okay, for drafting that bus over him. No book out of here. Nobody feels sorry for you, but mass franchise. And not only that, we talked about this. You have a biomass owner, who literally tried to like pay his coach to fucking lose games, and you think two is gonna succeed? Get the fuck out of my face.
Johnny Mansun:Bro, when I saw the things I was like tank for two. I was like, why are people so like, hell bent on this guy. Man. You wanted to think but here's the thing. Now listen, you wanted that too. We can always we can always look at every draft in every sport and say why don't you draft this guy? Why don't you draft that guy. It happens. It's the fucking nature of the game of sports in general. But with that being said, I don't believe that too is a bad quarterback. I think this season, he's going to show what he could do. In fact, I know this season. He's going to show what he could do because what happens this season is going to go Like to determine his future on the Miami Dolphins and in the NFL as a starter and what his status is because now you have names like Chase Edmonds and Ty Hill around you where you didn't have a one at wide receiver besides a rookie who you played college ball with, and no running back. And no o line, and you just got one of the best o lineman in the league from an actual solid franchise like New Orleans and a new head coach, because apparently,
Unknown:the owner had some beef with the with the
Zach:so he hired
Unknown:early. Then filed a lawsuit.
Johnny Mansun:I don't know. Can we talk about the heat a little bit little five minute lucky. Yeah, go ahead. Keith scored the most points in franchise history, I think are tied the most points in franchise history and a regular season game against the Hornets. Last night they scored 144 points. Tyler hero had a season high 35 points. Well, congrats. Yep. And we are first in the East two and a half games.
Zach:That's good. But congrats. Here's the thing.
Johnny Mansun:So I want to take a look, Zak at this. Ranking at this at the standings. They really look at this, you see.
Zach:I get it. It just felt like anything could happen from now like so check
Johnny Mansun:it out, like so I was looking at this right? I was looking at this. I looked at Brooklyn schedule, because what Miami wants is for Brooklyn to get that eight, right? Because they're probably not going to get the seven in the standings, right. But what happens is, if Brooklyn gets the eight, they play seven for the seven seat, and if it's Cleveland, I feel like they could win. Okay. So that's what we want, because we would rather play Cleveland or ATL or Charlotte. Before Brooklyn. Yeah, for sure. But I'm also not scared of Brooklyn. I'm not now with the home court advantage, not with my IV playing as well as they've played this year.
Zach:I don't know. It'd be tough. I don't think I'm gonna
Johnny Mansun:be the top. Scared No, but it wouldn't be the toughest matchup out of Cleveland ATL Charlotte. Of course, Charlotte has no defense ACLs week and so as a Cleveland as a poverty franchise, as Zack likes to say. But so listen, so look, check this out. So look, I was trying to I was trying to figure out what the playoffs are going to look like and what the CD is going to look like. So let's just say for this is what I think is gonna happen. I think Brooklyn is gonna get that eighth spot. I think Miami is gonna play Cleveland or I don't know I don't know who they're gonna play. It could be Cleveland ATL Charlotte I really don't see Brooklyn getting the eight seat. I think the eight see plays Milwaukee I don't even know I don't even know now. I don't know I'll see about this earlier but like it could go so many ways. I think once it's solidified we should have Carlos we're going to cut this out. I think we should have caught what I was trying to talk about to talk about the he playoffs what we expect and the playoffs
Zach:because it's like there's no sense in me like talking about it right now. Yeah, cuz so many fucking beats and change like let's just talk about it when we know what the playoffs like.
Johnny Mansun:Alright, like I said 25 minutes. Yeah.
Zach:It's the butcher shop. You see in a couple of days. We out. Oh,
Johnny Mansun:and we back and you saw it too. It's like when your favorite rapper like falls off?
Zach:He's like Oh man. Yeah, this
Johnny Mansun:chance rapper like coffee hot shower.
Zach:Hot coffee hot shower cauliflower, cauliflower him a powder ah, it's the boys whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa me out. I hope I didn't just fucked up yo, yours
Johnny Mansun:was just shot the butcher shop
Zach:shoot, but everything a little bit.