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S3:E2 - Dwight Howard: Basket? or Balls?
TIMESTAMPS!
00:00:00 Is 21 Savage becoming bland?
00:04:01 Drake's New Album and Its Reception
00:16:02 Discussion on Music and Other Topic
00:22:11 Dwight Howard's Controversy and Waka Flocka Flame's Trump Support
00:28:59 90s vs 2000s
00:39:49 Generational Differences and College Scandals
00:51:54 Patriots Vs Dolphins WK 8 Predictions
Is 21 Savage’s decade-long consistency in music a strategy for frequent big hits, or has he been playing it safe? Is Lil Yachty an innovative genius? Lets talk about Metro Boomin's 'Heroes and Villains' to Drake's 'Honestly Never Mind' and 'For All The Dogs'.
We also dive into a sea of controversy surrounding NBA star Dwight Howard's 2018 injury report, his coming out, and the end of his marriage. Does Waka Flocka's Trump endorsement hurt his image?
Things get political as we ponder the potential ripple effects of a Trump candidacy in the next election. What does his controversial presidency, and the criminal case looming over it, mean for his chances? Swinging back to the sports arena, we investigate alleged scandals in Michigan's college football scene, scrutinizing the practices of Josh Gaddis.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm Shaq-o-S and I'm getting really rich 2017 vibes. Dude. I was listening to Ocean Drive on the way home from school today and I was thinking about 2018, rolling loud, seeing 21 Savage. Yo, I had a thought. Actually, bro, I really feel like 21 Savage needs to stop rapping on Drake songs or with Drake, because every song he makes sounds the fucking same Like I need him to go do his own shit.
Speaker 1:Like without Drake.
Speaker 2:I guess maybe that's just in general where he's at in his career at this phase. But like I don't know, just his older shit or like I don't know.
Speaker 1:I've been listening to 21 Savage since, like, probably 2014. Like, I'm talking about, like Slaughter Tape. If you've ever really listened to that, nah, nah, like I listened to that when that shit came out and I was like bro, what in the fuck is this? His bro is on there talking about drinking and driving and he has a whole song called Drinking and Driving.
Speaker 2:Nobody ever does that shit up.
Speaker 1:but you know, the songs just stayed the same. You know forever, so I don't complaining now Yo speaking of drinking. Speaking of drinking when he got rich.
Speaker 2:Nah, but I think that his bars were more creative and his music, like his flows, were just more creative at like a certain point, like I guess you could say like that was his peak. But I'm thinking like 2017, 2016, 2017 to 2019, with like I am versus like I was or whatever the fuck that shit is called. I'm just saying, bro, you're like I think that was his prime.
Speaker 1:When you say a creative artist or you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he does his own thing. He's got his own sound. For sure, 21 Savage has a very unique sound. It sounds like no one else but him, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, I get that right, but I'm just saying that he's a creative artist. He's not a creative artist. You know what each 21 Savage projects him sound like?
Speaker 2:I guess we have different definitions, like I don't mean like he's not creative like the Beatles, where he's like getting all these strings and like this, all combining all these different sounds, and like like harmonies and shit and crazy lines, like yeah, like he just has his own, like it's almost a decade. Yeah, I just think he's getting old a little bit. I guess that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And that's what I agree, because I'm just like you know, I wouldn't to say he's a creative artist and I don't even want to. I would at least say like, if we're going to talk about create, like a creative trap artist, in a sense, maybe like a little Yachty, you know, because little Yachty actually has like sort of shifted some of the yeah, little Yachty's keeping rap alive a little bit. Yeah, for sure, fucking king of rap.
Speaker 2:He's not the king of rap, bro, but I'm saying like he's keeping it fresh.
Speaker 1:You said that he's keeping rap alive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like he's keeping it fresh, like he's keeping it current, like he's doing shit that's new. That's good. Still, because a lot of guys aren't doing a lot of new shit, that's good.
Speaker 1:My whole point about 21 Savage is that, like he's been doing the same shit for 10 years at this point, so you know all him creative in any sense is like wild. The only difference is that you know he's just been getting on bigger songs and now that shit's, you know, making him more money.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what I was about to get to, because if we're talking about 21 and then the Drake album, her loss. I want to hear your thoughts about the new Drake album, fat D.
Speaker 1:Where's the pause button Bro?
Speaker 2:that's what it's called. I didn't call it that, that's not. I didn't name the album, the name of the fucking album.
Speaker 1:That's literally the I don't understand why people are calling the album that, but whatever.
Speaker 2:We don't. What do you mean? You don't understand why people are like that's the name for all the dogs Fat D. You know, like logic. Sorry to bring up logic, it only took me two minutes, but you know logic. The incredible two story tits Logic's got tits and Drake's got a. I've literally never heard anybody call it that it actually is called that and the people do refer to it on the internet and in real life as it as tits. Yeah, that's, it's tits everybody. Uh, yeah, bobby Tarantino BT my brother, just because my logic.
Speaker 1:It's so bread. It is calling it tits.
Speaker 2:No, everyone does. I never heard that shit ask hunter like someone else, like Shout out to the hunter named drop.
Speaker 1:He's a shout out to hunter.
Speaker 2:We got to have him on the pod actually To talk about tits and family. Yeah, yeah, he'll be like no, actually, bro, mr Murale bro.
Speaker 1:It's a better album than all of this, so.
Speaker 2:Yo don't forget about the big steppers either.
Speaker 1:You, you don't think so.
Speaker 2:I just avoided answering because I I don't want to give my opinion, you'd like to drink out them that much. Oh, wait, wait. What are you talking about? Oh, mr Murale is better than the Drake album.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought you talked about.
Speaker 2:I thought you talked about the incredible two story.
Speaker 1:No, no, I know you like the incredible two.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, cause I was like that album is like one of my favorites all the time, but I love mr Murale. Mr Murale is great. I feel like it's really uh. It has really uh grown Like not grown what I'm trying to say like in the past year, like it's Like it's aged well. That's what I'm trying to say. It's aged well. But as far as Drake's album bro like I'm trying, at first I didn't like it. I was like Like whatever. Immediately when I, when I woke up and I went on a like a like a five hour road trip that morning, so I listened to the whole thing in the whip and the first song I played this was like right when I woke up and I knew that the Drake album dropped, first song I go and play is the sexy red song, because I had to hear what it sounded like.
Speaker 1:I, I did the same thing. And I had the j-cool song and I have not listened to it since. I've listened to the j-cool song a couple times, of course.
Speaker 2:Right. But, he's like your favorite right.
Speaker 1:I unfortunately uh, this Drake album wasn't really doing it for me from the start, but I still know I have to go. I don't have to do shit, but, like you know, i'ma go back and listen to it, just because I'll give them the you know the respect. Now I feel like music. I feel like stan or whatever in south park where, like everything started to just turn to shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I don't think that's just you and I don't think that's like, I don't think that's necessarily what's happening. I I mean, it's a fact that, like, hip-hop is not selling as much as it used to. That's a fact, you know.
Speaker 1:So that's, that's something to consider, but I think it has gotten listening to like dancing, like electronic music, like I'm not a rave or some shit.
Speaker 2:I've I've been listening to a lot of Zach bryan and lately I've been trying to get into his music because I'm not really into country and shit. But Like Mike, mike fucks with his music and like it's pretty, it's pretty chill. Like it's pretty, it's pretty good, like the lyrics are good, it's, it's it's definitely a wave and it's not like that like super Horny country shit. Chill bro, I'm actually I told you I'm going up for the game.
Speaker 1:Oh, for real.
Speaker 2:I am, yeah, with jet and mike and ryan I I enjoy that. This should be fun. Yeah, hey, bro, if we lose, fuck it. I'm still going out. Nah, nah, but we did, I dig visit uh Mike's house. It's in, uh, somewhere in like north florida, I'm not going to disclose the location?
Speaker 2:Nah, no, but it's somewhere in north florida, uh it's, it's super chill. It's like very like south vibes, like like, like Like georgia vibes. So I was there and like that music is definitely like a vibe. In that type of like environment, I feel like with the nature and like the weather and shit.
Speaker 1:I get you. With the nature and the weather and shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, like, yeah, it's like just a vibe out there. It's just different and you want to. It's like I don't know, I don't know whatever. But to go back to the Drake album, I will say that you know, I feel like I'm name dropping all my friends on this podcast, but like Alex is a huge Drake fan and like I've been like telling him like I don't really fuck with this album, like that much whatever, but I'm trying to listen to it more. There's a couple songs and I'm like okay, like this is cool and like it's still good enough to like, where you could be playing it at a party in the background, just as music, and not give a fuck. That's how I felt about the Travis Scott album. It's like I could play this at the party or on the boat and like it's gonna be a good vibe to like. It's just like normal to us, but like it's background music.
Speaker 2:it's not some shit yeah it's not some shit that I'm like wow, this is really good, you know.
Speaker 1:Such a trash.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the only song on that album that I fucked with on the Travis Scott album was a god damn, what's that Like? I can't remember the name off the top of my head, but it's a oh, I know. Yeah, I know that song's fine.
Speaker 1:I don't know how everybody feels the same way. Everyone likes that song, but every other song on there they're like I couldn't name it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like, I know it's like it didn't like he made it like too late for the last album and then the rest of this fucking album. He was just on some bullshit, nah.
Speaker 2:but honestly I think the Travis Scott album, well, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I saved both of these albums and I'm not really like, especially with Drake and this is the last thing I'll say and I'll let you say your piece that, like at least with Drake, bro, all of his music is so petty. It's like, bro, you're almost 40, bro, you have a child. Like you're talking about these petty things that, like maybe I was, I would relate to if I was like in middle school when I first listened to you. But I'm not in middle school and it's not like like, oh damn, like, oh shit. That's crazy. Like I don't give a fuck, like I want to hear real shit, or like like real shit, like honorable shit. He just talks a lot of bullshit, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he's an example of what happens when you don't grow with your audience, right when you when you don't want to share, right, like because and I hate to even say it, right, but any 35 year old who's you know hanging out with 21 year olds, 22 year olds and shit like that? He's obviously you know, he's stuck in that like.
Speaker 1:I don't even have to say it, you get what I'm saying. So like at least his music sounds exactly like that, unfortunately, right. And it's unfortunate because his peers like Kendrick and J Cole and you know just whoever while they out, I hate to even say Big Sean, even logic.
Speaker 2:Logic has changed and evolved throughout his career.
Speaker 1:Jay Z is a great example around the same time as him, have grown and matured with their music, and their music has matured as well. Right, and it's just like we don't hear that from Drake. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Well, let me, let me, let me say, let me let me push back a little bit, because I think that he did do a great job with with honestly, never mind, I really like that and he got a lot of shit for that. And then like, the next two albums after that album have been pretty like mid and him trying to like just do this one style of music that's like pop, hip hop, like popular, like mainstream hip hop and it's like I don't think people want that. That's why the Yachty album was such a success, because it was not classic hip hop or like current, like popular hip hop. It was. It was. It was implementing different sounds and from different genres and people really gravitate to toward that, you know.
Speaker 1:I like the Yachty album right, but I wonder what I'd have to go back and look at what it sold. But I would just say I wonder if more so the reception to it was because people were just so sick and tired of hearing just the same basic rap from everybody else, right? So it was just like anytime somebody came out with something you know weird and different, and especially from like a guy like Lil Yachty, right, it's like huh, so like.
Speaker 2:But it was good. It wasn't that just that it was different, but it was actually quality. The production was incredible.
Speaker 1:I think it's good, right, I think it's great. I got the vinyl but I also, going back to it, think there's probably only four songs on there that are worthwhile, so how good really is it. Like you know, like after.
Speaker 2:It's not a super long album either.
Speaker 1:No, but it's not a super long album, but still, though, let's say there are nine songs. I'm telling you, you know, I guess it's a 45% or 35, something like that.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I feel like. I feel like I like the most pretty much the whole album, maybe a couple songs I'm like not so you know hype about I don't think it's his best album, but I do think that his next album is going to be his best album. And that EP he drops with the song with Jake Cole and then the one with Strike on it. Bro strikes one of my favorite songs right now.
Speaker 1:And he probably sold his soul in Andro.
Speaker 2:What the fuck that was so random. You know what, if you think about it, bro, he was probably like no, no, no, we're not gonna get into all that.
Speaker 1:No, but I would say that, like, um, I don't know, I'm not gonna hate on him for being best friends with Drake. I'm not gonna hate on a dude for having friends or whatever. Um, I just, um, I wonder how that's influenced both of their careers. Um, because the Drake feature is not, uh, drake feature is not necessarily, um, the biggest thing ever, and I think that Lil Yachty, unfortunately, has proven that. You know what I mean, because they're they have multiple songs together, I guess, and I'd say they're both probably a little mid. Well, there's no, probably on the first one. The first one is mid.
Speaker 2:You know, talk about Oprah's bank account.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I don't think I've ever heard anybody play that song and be like this is gas. You know what I mean. So a Drake feature doesn't help you on that right. And then I would say even the new one I don't know the name of it, that one's cool or whatever. But, like you know, I don't even think a cold Bennett video could necessarily save that and make it. You know it's not on the radio. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, shit, I don't listen to the radio, but I just know it's not. So I feel you. I feel you.
Speaker 2:I've been listening a lot to uh uh Sunburn by, uh, dominic Fike. That album is probably my favorite album of this year. I would say that album along with the Daniel Caesar album. Yeah, for sure, I'd say the Daniel Caesar album and the Dominic Fike album are my top two. Uh, this year and by the end of the year I feel like I'll have like one more to make my top three, but those for sure in the top, top two.
Speaker 2:But yeah yeah, tell me your top albums, and then let's get back to talking about Drake a little bit more, and then, and then we'll get off of that topic.
Speaker 1:I guess I'm gonna say Vince Stables. He dropped a project. Who else? Um, honestly, man, it's been a tough year for music. I don't even want to say Ghana, but, like Ghana had a great project.
Speaker 2:Fuck you me.
Speaker 1:I don't even mean on like oh, honestly, you know who had the best album of the year, who? Let's talk about it Metro Boomin. Now you know it's easy to do that when you can add, like you know, all of the great stuff.
Speaker 2:It's like the all star team versus like the.
Speaker 1:DJ Khaled has also shown that that doesn't mean shit, because nobody's listening to a DJ Khaled album and he got the same shit.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? Yeah, but I feel like DJ Khaled, like he had that shit going for him like earlier in time, and now it's more like Metro Boomin is like doing it now.
Speaker 1:But even when he had that, it was still corny and those albums were still trash, john, I'm talking about the Metro Boomin album that he dropped.
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:Spider-Man one. No, I'm talking about the other one. You're joking, right? What Heroes and villains.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Spider-Man one bro.
Speaker 1:That's not this, all right, brother. Have you ever heard Heroes and Villains, no I have for sure I have Hold on.
Speaker 2:Let me just go check it out Every song on.
Speaker 1:There is literally.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm tripping, I'm tripping.
Speaker 1:That's a classic album. In 10 years, 15 years from now, we're gonna be talking about that's not so much my style.
Speaker 2:Like this album is good, but like this is how I feel. This is how I feel about like the Like I feel about this, how you feel about the Yachty album. Like I'm looking back and I'm like, realistically, on this album I'll probably listen to like four songs Tight.
Speaker 1:That's disrespectful.
Speaker 2:No, but that also came out in 2022, so oh, it did damn. Yeah, that's why I thought you were talking about the Spider-Man one, because that one came out this year.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not talking about the Spider-Man one.
Speaker 2:Okay for sure.
Speaker 1:You put that game.
Speaker 2:No, no, I have a Xbox Loser. Dude fucking Alex just got a PlayStation. Now all my friends have a PlayStation.
Speaker 1:Join the club, brother.
Speaker 2:I just got this Xbox, like last year.
Speaker 1:Two years ago, ps5. You can get them at Walmart now.
Speaker 2:Shout out to the plug, I don't know but to go back to Drake, because we're getting a little off topic that I really like what he did on Honestly Never Mind. I thought it was fresh and I was talking to my friends about this and I want to get your opinion. What do you think is better? What do you like? More For all the dogs or a certified lover boy?
Speaker 1:Certified lover boy for sure. Yeah same. I think he's actually rapping on that one. I don't know. I just don't like this album Neither do I. I think this album is literally unfortunately. I thought Honestly, Never Mind was Drake's worst album, but then this came out. I think they might be tied. Honestly, I'm not saying he's on the decline, I'm not going to be Skip Bayless or Max.
Speaker 2:Kellerman, are we going to get into that convo now? Can we start talking about how? Drake's out of his prime? Can we talk about it? Logic's out of his prime, cole's out of his prime.
Speaker 1:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:The last couple Cole features have been a little like yeah because and yeah, you want to talk about how Drake features don't mean that much anymore and it literally got Cole his first number one.
Speaker 1:I'm saying that it doesn't mean like that. The song is just going to be a hit. Jake Cole is a huge artist just like Drake.
Speaker 2:But he had never had a number one till he got a song with Drake. Yeah, and number one means it's a hit.
Speaker 1:He has multiple throngs with Drake and he has no number one. So what does that mean?
Speaker 2:I feel you, you know what I'm saying, of course. Of course, I'm just playing. Don't Laugh Again.
Speaker 1:I think he's riding his coat tails. You know what I mean. But come on, brother.
Speaker 2:That's dumb.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying that, like you know, the Drake feature, it don't mean shit. Where's I? Love MacCone. You remember that song, the Tuesday song, the club going up on a Tuesday, hell yeah. Where's brother at.
Speaker 2:Bro, he's still doing his thing. He was making music when little people's around, like with peeping shit.
Speaker 1:Saying he's doing his thing is wild, because you have not heard his name in like seven years until he dropped that.
Speaker 2:Yo don't talk about MacCone if you don't know the song RIS, ris, ris, ris, ris, ris. But you ain't heard about.
Speaker 1:MacCone since 2014,. And now you want to act like MacCone and be doing some shit. Bro, he's been working for a decade.
Speaker 2:Yo just give him more time.
Speaker 1:For sure.
Speaker 2:That's what he tells the label. Yo bro, just give me like six more months. No, you're done.
Speaker 1:It's crickets.
Speaker 2:I'm dead, all right, so you want to get into some other shit? Can we talk about Dwight Howard? He's a dick-sucking rapist. Is that what I am to believe?
Speaker 1:Dwight Howard's out here wild. And I remember when all like bro, back in like 2018 and shit like that, dwight Howard was getting injured and shit like that, and on the injury report it was saying that he was having like some shit was wrong with his butt, right, and everybody would troll and joke and be like yo, you know what I mean. And now we really know for real, like no, that's what was happening, brother. Like honestly, I don't want to. I'm not shaming the man. Do what you want to do, right. I'm just saying that, like Dwight Howard just was wild because on top of that, on top of doing that, he was on some like wild shit. He's over here in court having to be like I had consensuals.
Speaker 2:When you're in court talking about you had some consensual sex. You probably didn't have some consensual sex.
Speaker 1:Holy shit.
Speaker 2:It might be over for that man. No, so let's keep the list here.
Speaker 1:His whole life is coming out right now, unfortunately, pause.
Speaker 2:He's. Something came out for sure bro Out the closet. All right, let's see You're full.
Speaker 2:No, again, I wanted to reiterate what you were saying is that we're not shaming him for being gay or whatever, although it is funny that like he had injuries to his butt and it turns out that like he was gay. But that's just funny in general. But what I'm saying, why I brought this up especially is because of the non consensual aspect to it. He says there's a report Now I don't know how true this is, don't quote me on this, but again, this is Twitter news says that report Dwight Howard denies assaulting man he met on Instagram. Claims sexual interactions were consensual. So apparently there's something where someone is saying that he assaulted them.
Speaker 2:But through that, through that accusation, we have found out that you know he's gay because he came out and had to say, nah, they were consensual. So he's basically, you know, coming out and saying I had consensual sex with this dude that I met on Instagram. It's like I, bro. But why is he saying that you raped? That's what that's. That's that's the part that's concerning to me. Uh, some that, some some other reports here. So Apparently he's married to a woman on the LA. She plays for the LA Sparks, taya Cooper, and apparently she said that she, that her marriage to Dwight Howard is over. She never wants to talk to him again and she's single After it was implied Dwight was cheating with quote individuals.
Speaker 2:Hey yo bro is cheating with motherfuckers.
Speaker 1:Hey, yo honestly forget about it. Brother, you need to get your life in order. I don't know what you were out here doing. Well, no, we know what you were out here doing.
Speaker 2:I hope it was consensual. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not even finna get into this shit.
Speaker 2:But yeah, Dwight Howard's trippin'.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about Waka Flaka.
Speaker 2:Alright. So Waka Flaka just endorsed Trump. He posted a tweet that said Trump 2024 is some shit. And then he changed his profile picture to a picture of him and Trump. It looks like a fucking recruiting visit. He's standing next to him. He's like this is my guy. I don't like the energy. Someone said come on, bro. Yeah, it's like Nick Saban trying to land someone out of the fucking UM's backyard in South Florida. He said come on, bro, if you're going broke, we'll collectively stream Flaka Valley or something. Don't go out like this Sad.
Speaker 1:You know he's like an EDM DJ, right.
Speaker 2:Are you for real?
Speaker 1:Yeah, not for real. Him and Shaq do whatever. You call that shit, like a rave or some shit.
Speaker 2:I know Shaq is, but, bro, wait, wait. Sorry to go back to this.
Speaker 1:Waka Flaka has completely, bro, he don't rap anymore. No, he doesn't. He's just making his song that he's already done.
Speaker 2:So why is he? Why is he? What's up with the Trump endorsement? Is he really about that January 6th?
Speaker 1:He's his fan base now, oh man, his fan base now for real.
Speaker 2:Think about it, oh he's DJing to white boys.
Speaker 1:Yes, frat boys. He could pay Waka Flaka to pull up to your frat and DJ from Of course, bro Waka Flaka has been touring the frats and the universities in America for years, so like think about who his fan base is. Bro Waka Flaka is the type to do like your grad bash and shit you know Like that's the only time I listen to Waka Flaka is no Hands and oh, let's do it, or some shit.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what that one is oh, come on. I have to hear it. I have to hear it.
Speaker 1:So what are you? 2004 or some shit.
Speaker 2:You're so 2000 and late. You know what that's from.
Speaker 1:Can we talk about this real quick? What Boom, boom pow that if you were born in 1999, that you're old I feel old If you were born in the 2000s. That you're like old. How does that make?
Speaker 2:sense You're old if in relation to like a fucking jit, yeah, it's about it, right, you're old to motherfuckers who were born in 2008. I mean that are like 14.
Speaker 1:That's like a baby. That's like 14, 15.
Speaker 2:They're like freshmen in high school. They're looking at us like we're old as hell.
Speaker 1:Is that really 2008?
Speaker 2:Bro 2008,. That's 15 years, that's insane.
Speaker 1:I guess we really are fucking old.
Speaker 2:Figured it out, folks. You heard it here. Folks, you heard it. Yeah, I can't talk. You heard it here. First I was like bro, holy shit 2008.
Speaker 1:Yo, we're 2000 and late.
Speaker 2:You feel me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not even that Nah, you're born in 99 too.
Speaker 2:I know they're going to be jealous that we're born in 99. I was actually talking about this with my sister I want to get your opinion on this that we are like the last generation, especially my sister's generation, because they were like a little older than me, like six years, eight years. They were growing up during like the peak of 2008. Peak times for MySpace and AOL message boards that was a little bit before my time and Facebook and shit. I had a Facebook, but I wasn't the first on Facebook. I never used a MySpace. That was like they grew up with this emerging technology. Even us, we grew up and we had a childhood where we didn't have an iPad and we didn't have this constant screens and stimulation and all this shit. I feel like we had somewhat of a normal childhood. That I feel like is slowly being lost. And the way that all this technology is changing our lives it's changing how people experience childhood I feel like Because my childhood we would go inside to play video games and shit like that.
Speaker 1:But you would go with your homie to his house to go play video games, some co-op shit. Right, it wouldn't be just some online shit. And then on top of that, we used to go and knock on your like you would knock on your homie's door and be like, hey, can you come outside to play? You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, that was the best.
Speaker 1:And then we'd go and just do some shit. You know what I mean. Like I don't know of kids that were like that.
Speaker 2:I still don't know how we were never friends growing up, because you live down the fucking street bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, literally, but I would go outside to play basketball, that's what like. So I don't know how you never saw me. There were kids who from the block, who I knew, and I would go and play basketball with them. I guess you just never went outside pussy.
Speaker 2:Damn damn catching outside. How about that?
Speaker 1:We didn't. It's funny how we live close to each other. This is more of like a political conversation now, but like we live like a block away from each other. But we went to completely different schools.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you were, because you're trying to expose me because I've used a fake address Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
Speaker 1:Whatever brother.
Speaker 2:I used a fake address allegedly because all my friends went to Palmetto Middle, like my cousin and shit, and they lived in Pinecrest.
Speaker 1:Hey, see, now you're doxing your actual address.
Speaker 2:No, everyone knows the pod's out of Pinecrest. We're actually out of Cutler Bay. We're actually posting at Homestead. We're at some old $9 million house in Pinecrest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, try to break in pussy. We're in two different rooms in the same house. Yeah, it's a mansion. We're just trying to fool you.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you want to talk about, while we're already on sexual assault? I don't mean that as a joke, I don't mean that as a laughing matter.
Speaker 2:I mean that as like Seemed like you did. You laughed after you said it.
Speaker 1:I mean as like we can do better, you know yeah.
Speaker 2:Who's we? Who's we? Who are we talking about here?
Speaker 1:I'm talking about goddamn.
Speaker 2:But fucking a hay-up sandwich. Why you ain't eat that shit cold? Can't even cook a fucking sandwich.
Speaker 1:I wonder where those kids are now.
Speaker 2:That's why your daddy will poop you and you cry favorite fucking video of all time. I know they're still friends for sure when they fight and he's like what's up then?
Speaker 1:he's like I'm not gonna throw getting in the fights about him sandwiches no, that was just some like little kid shit that was honestly adorable. Now they're they're still doing that shit no, no, no.
Speaker 2:They grew up. Now it's about like pussy and shit okay, so they're still fighting. It's like even worse, or like money or drugs or who knows what. The fuck bro damn I don't want to assume anything, but it's a movie dude, straight up, what if one of those kids, what if those, what if one of those kids like became like the next president not the next president, but like a president or like some crazy shit, like an astronaut or like did anything that we were like the?
Speaker 1:next president, and then they use that against them as like a ad. They were like you can't even cook a fucking sandwich, even your friends since.
Speaker 2:Since you were a kid, new you fucks news is gonna do a whole fucking episode, a whole segment about how he can't cook a sandwich why would you vote for this guy?
Speaker 1:his friends don't even like him. They could be like.
Speaker 2:And Tom, why didn't he eat it cold? It's a sandwich every president since 1776 is eating a fucking cold you thought they yeah, you thought they could just cook a ham sandwich and the fucking revolution. Our founding fathers couldn't do that. It's not in the Constitution. That's why he hates America and the Constitution. I rest my case 2020 is a 2024.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's the one. Is that shit even a thing?
Speaker 2:now they canceled it. Now they canceled it. I haven't heard nothing about it imagine now they're not canceling elections till Trump wins again then then we're gonna start canceling elections, yeah that makes sense for security reasons.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying I feel like before I like what was it? Not even 2020, but well shit, 2020 and 2016. I heard about it way more than I've heard about it now. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like, I feel like it's really low-key right now, like nobody's talking about it 2016 there was no incumbent maybe it's cuz it's only Republicans 2016 there was a Republican and a Democratic race at the same time, because Obama had already how he finished his second term and couldn't run again. So both sides were picking a nominee. And then in 2020, the Democrats were picking a nominee, but it was all about Trump because he was like enemy number one, etc. Very controversial president. And then now the Democrats have a nominee who isn't popular, who Democrats don't even want to run, and then the Republicans have their guy. But their guy not only is facing multiple felony indictments, is also not debating and not participating in in any of this. You know normal process.
Speaker 1:Well, this is well, this is how it works.
Speaker 2:It's up to the. It's up to the primary voters in each state Iowa, all the states, new Hampshire if he on the ballot like well, here's the thing. Yes, well, here's the thing in the pride, in the Republican primaries, he is gonna be on the ballot, and if he is on the ballot, he's gonna win. Here's the problem. Here's the problem that that's why he might not be on some ballots.
Speaker 2:For instance, there's a, there's a possibility he's not on the ballot in Georgia because of the criminal case against him, when he, for among many other things, called the secretary of state and asked him if he could find him. 11,000 votes like word for word. But if Georgia is just gonna be one state, he's still in but Georgia's a Georgia's a swing state, big state and Biden won Georgia.
Speaker 1:And because Biden won, you're talking about on the overall ballot. I was just talking well, there's also.
Speaker 2:There's also a federal, there's also federal charges against Trump and if I think that it's possible that he will be found guilty, the question is, if he's found guilty, what is the ramifications? He's not gonna go to jail. He's a former president, so it seems like he'd probably be like on house arrest and like Mar-a-Lago. That's like what the that's like what people are saying right now, but we really don't know because this has never happened. So, as far as like what would really happen, it's it'll be interesting to find out, but people are saying that he's gonna be arrested or not arrested. He's gonna be like found guilty and then be on house arrest and stay at Mar-a-Lago and then, if he wins, you can still run for president. You could still run for president from prison. People have done it in the past and have received a significant amount of votes.
Speaker 2:Before this happened in the 20s with this happened in this the 20s with a socialist who was criticizing like World War one. At the time it was illegal. He got put in jail and he was running. His name was a, I can't remember. I can't remember, I'm not, don't quote me on that, but yeah, anyways, long story short, he can still run, even if he's found guilty and convicted and put on house arrest or arrested in whatever manner he will be, because I mean, the evidence is damning. Any, any person with two eyeballs can. Can you know? I mean, but who? So we don't know.
Speaker 1:It's, it's this shit's crazy as hell and I feel you don't tell me that a felon is gonna run as a Republican and win in the party of law and order of yeah it's like how the tables turn damn real shit. No, but real shit but no hate to Republicans, or I mean it's not all Republicans. It's not all Republicans it's that this is an arresting concept, right, because if anybody would have told you in 2016, like this, how this all would have gone, everybody would have been like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:But you also? Told them we'd have a pandemic. Anything about the past fucking six, seven years shit's been insane in same time to live in right it's a shit for sure but I mean, we'll see, dude, we'll see.
Speaker 2:Man, I don't know what the fuck's gonna happen. And I just want to say one more thing and then we'll switch the topic that I really believe that, like Trump supporters not all Republicans, but just people who support Trump like that shit is a cult. I don't care what anybody says, it is literally a cult. These people don't care about facts or truth, they don't care about nuance. It is my guy or no one, and it's. It's really, it's really dangerous, it's really scary. And the fact that he could, the fact that he could run from prison after basically trying to overthrow the government one time and still possibly win because the Democratic nominee is so weak bro bro, all I know is I really, I really hope somehow Biden manages to win or anyone else other than Trump wins straight up why do you think Biden didn't just, you know, step down?
Speaker 1:why do you think he feels like he still needs to be president, even though he can't walk? Bro, like ego and like and his fellow colleagues of his age are, you know, currently dying in office.
Speaker 2:It's that generation. They don't want to let go, bro. They don't want to, they don't want to let go.
Speaker 1:They fucked up everything and they're like I'm not letting go they have to be like a top three worst generation type, like they might be, just like the tick-tockers. It's ironic because their parents generation.
Speaker 2:You know what they were called the greatest generation and they gave birth to the worst generation.
Speaker 1:That's really tough who then gave birth to another, worse generation. I hate to say it, but those 80s babies aren't any bad gen Xers yeah, I would. I feel like I don't. Maybe I'm biased as a 90s baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, feel like millennials and Gen Z years or are different, for sure but what's our generation, though?
Speaker 1:like?
Speaker 2:I think we're Gen Z oh, but that's the tick-tockers we're like in a weird spot because we're technically we're technically, I think, millennials, but we're more like Gen Zers, like millennials, are more like like born in like the early 90s. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's such a weird spot to be in. Yeah, the late 90s, I don't understand like I hate to say, like you know these little kids or whatever, but I don't understand like that generation. And then I also sort of don't understand the other generation. I think we honestly should be our own generation.
Speaker 2:Yeah 1999., I feel like we are.
Speaker 1:What's another generation Like? Think about like the last time that year, like something like that year happened, that was like 1899. You know what I mean. You think they felt like the people from 1880, you know or?
Speaker 2:probably dude. Shit didn't change much back then, to be honest.
Speaker 1:Not dude. They were like we have cars.
Speaker 2:We have cars, y'all still whipping the horse. That's crazy. I got real horse power, fuck boy. Damn, that's tough.
Speaker 1:You want to get into Michigan State and all the dumb shit they're doing.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's what you meant when you said speaking of sexual assault.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because Mel Tucker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's just crazy. Get into it, get into it.
Speaker 1:But on top of that. So the head coach of Michigan State has been on some wild shit. He I'll get into that in a second. First, we'll start off with Michigan State having a trivia question during their football game, and you know how most trivia questions are how many yards is the first down Right? Michigan State's trivia question was where was Hitler born?
Speaker 2:Dude, everyone knows Vienna.
Speaker 1:For sure, or Prague. The only problem that? Well, that's not the only problem with it, but another big problem is, when they do this, they're going to go show Hitler's face on the big screen during a football game.
Speaker 2:Real shit, that's nationally televised.
Speaker 1:They're trying to distract from what's going on with the head coach, and on top of that, especially right now of all times, you're going to show me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't even think about it like that. Dude, that's super insensitive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Michigan State honestly has to be one of the funniest schools ever.
Speaker 2:And we lost to them in 2021.
Speaker 1:Blue Mountain State of like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:The Midwest the biggest funniest fuck. Bro, Michigan and Michigan State are both going through crazy scandals. Michigan, you saw the shit with them their scandal of stealing signals.
Speaker 1:Bro Dude, he's going to get suspended for like a game. I don't even think it's anything big, I think people sort of bone it out the water.
Speaker 2:I don't know, dude, I hope that it's like. I hope that it's. I think that it might actually be the reason why John, or sorry, jim Harbaugh, stops coaching at Michigan. Finally, I don't think so. I doubt it. I think it's possible. I don't, I wouldn't put my money on it, but I think it's possible.
Speaker 1:He could go.
Speaker 2:He could go because he's been trying to get out for a minute.
Speaker 1:I don't think he has. Well, he has, you are right.
Speaker 2:And then they had to resign him to that big conch Bro can we talk about how everyone's calling Josh Gaddis a fraud now Because he was on that team and they were like they were giving him the defense's signals and they knew like it, like, and then we got him and we and we were the worst offense we've been in, like a fat minute.
Speaker 1:Where's Josh Gaddis now?
Speaker 2:Maryland Interesting. How are they doing Not?
Speaker 1:well, exactly, you know. Maryland actually hired Dan Enos. You're also the coordinator. What Is he their offensive coordinator? Yeah, Enos or no? No, no.
Speaker 2:So when we had Enos and we fired him after one year the first year of Manny Diaz we fired him. He got the job with Maryland. It's because they're coaches from like Bama he used to coach.
Speaker 1:Like their head coach at Maryland, he used to coach at Bama. I'm pretty sure they have two of his younger brothers a quarterback. He's pretty decent. And Dan Enos used to coach at Bama. Yeah, but I forgot.
Speaker 2:Well, so what I was going to say is that Dan Enos got fired from there and then he was working at Arkansas, and then he just got fired this season, I think actually. Oh, dan, but um Got fired during the season.
Speaker 1:I think so. Like yeah, like recently he was working for them and got fired.
Speaker 2:But then it's funny, because then fast forward to the Mario Cristobal era. We get a one year off as a coordinator who also doesn't do it, like doesn't do it for us, fire him, and then Maryland picks up that same guy. Again they pick up, except it's Josh Gaddis now.
Speaker 1:What about the real hero in the story or the scapegoat in the story, manny Diaz? I mean bro, he could coach a D5.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't want him as my coach on my defense, but he can coach a defense, especially if he has good players. So that's the problem though.
Speaker 1:I think what it is is that he probably just wasn't a good recruiter. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like he couldn't sell it enough. You know he could coach the fuck out of a defense and he could hire a dude to run the offense right, he proved the same thing right. So it's just like what was his real problem? And I think his real problem was just that that offense once Rhett Lashley left you know what I mean it fell down the drain and then he was already in hot water, you know. And his defense what he was known for wasn't playing good either. The loss to FSU really hurt.
Speaker 2:You know that 2021 loss to FSU really hurt him.
Speaker 1:That was the nail in the coffin, and then, on top of that, he was a good player and that Just a perfect alignment, because Mario Cruz, like, while Manny Diaz is, you know, doing bad or whatever, mario Cristobal, on the other hand, was doing good, right yeah? And then we see that and we're like, ah, fuck it, you know what?
Speaker 2:I mean, I was about to say, I'm like yo, and then we see a former alum who got. Who got his, uh, who got. You know who like uh got his. Not his start, but he developed as a coach under Nick Saban at Alabama, then went to Oregon. A huge program, one uh one, a Rose Bowl and a Pac-12 championship. Went to one more or two more. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I think something also just irks me about Manny Diaz being an FSU alum.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it doesn't sit right either you know um yeah, you know, Mario went to UM. He practiced on green tree. He won two championships as a player. He coached as an assistant in the early 2000s. He was on that coaching staff for the 01 team, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1:But whatever, uh, in 20 years um he'll get his.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you. Let me tell you the difference. The difference is, yes, recruiting, because Mario got a top five class last year. We got a top 10 one this year, but on top, it's not like um, oh boy, didn't do that already.
Speaker 1:He had already uh many ideas, had already done that.
Speaker 2:We had never had a top five class, not with many ideas.
Speaker 1:It wasn't. Was it top 10?
Speaker 2:We might have had one top 10 class, but it was a miss.
Speaker 1:I remember it, yeah, I think it was literally the class of like 17 or maybe it was 18, but that wasn't.
Speaker 2:that wasn't Manny Diaz's class, that was Mark Rick's class.
Speaker 1:I get you.
Speaker 2:Manny Diaz wasn't a good recruiter. We lost a lot of guys. But also it's not in it's in Mario's DNA to build from the line of scrimmage outward and we're seeing that pay benefits now because we're seeing how we were manhandling Clemson on the O line and the D line. You told me that two years ago. I'd be like you're fucking joking. We're not dominating Clemson on the line of scrimmage either direction, but that right there, and you know, we have not only a transfer from Alabama but a transfer also from UCF at our center position and we have a true freshman at right tackle.
Speaker 1:And they're getting it done.
Speaker 2:And they're getting it done. And they're getting it done. High school best friend, lifelong best friend, coaching that O line, one of the best O line coaches in the country. Mario's also an O line guy. He played O line and I think that is gonna allow us to have an explosive offense. And if our offense takes pressure off of the defense by being able to run the ball and Chew up time and it keeps our defense fresh, we have athletes and we have good enough schemes where we can cause havoc and disruption and and you know, play good well enough, where you know if our defense, if our offense, can Continue to protect the quarterback and let it and let our quarterback kick guys downfield, we're gonna be good. I mean. Last thing I'll say our, our defense is like top 20, our offense is top 10. You cut your, you cut out the turnovers and the penalties, which ranked both in the hundreds. We could very well be 6-0 right now, ranked in the top 15, maybe even top 10. So yeah, that's facts.
Speaker 1:But that fortunately phone balls turnovers, you know but we clean that up against Clemson.
Speaker 2:Let's see if we can. Let's see if we can play the rest of the season clean.
Speaker 1:Football and just sports in general are all about the little plays that you think end up not mattering. And then they do. You know what I mean. I watched. You know the Patriots every week lose by like one point.
Speaker 1:Not one point, but you know one possession, you know and it's always some dumb shit that we did right and in reality we damn near could be a 6-0 team. You know what I mean? It's just the fact of a couple of things not going our way, and they always happen at the wrong time, you know I mean. So it's a, it's the thing that you got to get fixed, and it takes some time. But it also takes just getting better players, because most of time when that's happening, you don't have good players. So, yeah, I'll just leave it at that. Lastly, predictions for Dolphins Patriots just give me the score.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know if Tyree kill is gonna play. We have a lot of injuries, our whole defense is injured brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I mean, I mean I don't know, it's in Miami, yep 305. The dolphins are 15 and 2 in their last 17 games at home. I think that they'll find a way to get it done. I think that the I think that the dolphins will win. I don't think it's gonna be as Much as lopsided as the first matchup was. I think it's gonna be close. I think it could be decided, like you said, by a lot of those games that you guys have played, by one possession, if not one field goal, which is again one possession but you're not gonna go.
Speaker 1:24 17 Patriots last, you know, last possession game winning touchdown. It's ongoing.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna take if we win. It's gonna have to be like that. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say 27, 21 dolphins.
Speaker 1:Let's go back and see how this goes bet. Hell yeah, all right, it's the butcher shop. Thank you for joining.
Speaker 2:Thank you for watching you guys next week listening Peace.
Speaker 1:Yes, all the same right.
Speaker 2:Oh.